Showing posts with label Illegal Immigration. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Illegal Immigration. Show all posts

Saturday, June 25, 2011

Obama slips DREAM ACT AMNESTY past Congress (World Net Daily News) By Drew Zahn June 25, 2011

Friday, June 24, 2011


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Obama slips DREAM Act amnesty past Congress
Columnist charges, 'This is outright lawlessness on part of the administration'

Posted: June 25, 2011
1:00 am Eastern

By Drew Zahn


WND


A new enforcement memo handed down by the director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement last week has some accusing the White House of running around Congress to implement the DREAM Act – and consequent amnesty for some illegal immigrants – by executive fiat.

The new memo, penned by ICE Director John Morton, directs ICE agents, attorneys and directors to exercise "prosecutorial discretion" – meaning less likelihood of deportation – for illegal aliens who have been students in the U.S., who have been in the country since childhood or who have served in the American military.

Critics have pointed out the new leniency standards parallel the provisions of the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, which could not pass the Senate, despite several votes over the past decade, including three failed attempts at passage last year.

"This is outright lawlessness on the part of the administration," argued syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer on a discussion panel with Fox News' anchor Chris Wallace. "Whatever the politics of this, we do have a Constitution. And under it, the Legislature, the Congress enacts the laws and the executive executes them. It doesn't make them up.

"The DREAM Act was rejected by Congress," Krauthammer continued. "It is now being enacted by the executive, despite the express will of the Congress. That is lawless. It may not be an explicit executive order; it's an implicit one."

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Other guests on Wallace's program admitted that President Obama has been under pressure from Hispanic lobbyists to do what Krauthammer is accusing: an end run around Congress.

"Immigration-rights activists have been pressing the president to do exactly this, because they couldn't get the DREAM Act enacted," commented Nina Easton of Fortune Magazine. "They have been saying, 'Let's do it administratively.' He has done the same thing on labor issues, union issues, by the way."

Mara Liasson of National Public Radio added, "That's exactly what the president has promised to do. Latino activists were asking him to issue an executive order to make the DREAM Act a law. That would truly be an end run around Congress. And he said he doesn't have the power to do that.

"What he does have is prosecutorial discretion," Liasson continued. "That's existed long before he came in office. And what ICE did today was it said, 'Here are all the factors that you can take into consideration.'"

Specifically, the memo argues, "Because the agency is confronted with more violations than its resources can address, the agency must regularly exercise prosecutorial discretion."

Therefore, it states, priority in prosecution should be given to "felons," "gang members" and "repeat offenders."

But other determinants are listed "positive factors [that] should prompt particular care and consideration," namely if the illegal immigrant is a veteran of the U.S. armed forces, present in the U.S. since childhood, pregnant, a victim of violent crime or suffering from serious health conditions.

In addition, the memo states, "When weighing whether an exercise of prosecutorial discretion may be warranted for a given alien, ICE officers, agents and attorneys should consider all relevant factors, including, but not limited to:

  • The person's length of presence in the United States;
  • The circumstances of the person's arrival in the United States and the manner of his or her entry, particularly if the alien came to the United States as a young child;
  • The person's pursuit of education in the United States, with particular consideration given to those who have graduated from a U.S. high school or have successfully pursued or are pursuing a college or advanced degrees at a legitimate institution of higher education in the United States."

The DREAM Act would similarly grant children in the country illegally the opportunity to become U.S. citizens if they attend college or enlist in the military.

Though the Nancy Pelosi-led U.S. House of Representatives passed the DREAM Act during the "lame duck" session after last year's election, the U.S. Senate has repeatedly failed to clear the 60-vote threshold necessary to bring it up for vote over Republican filibusters.

Monday, January 24, 2011

Exclusive: Over a million immigrants land U.S. jobs in 2008-10 (by Ed Stoddard) Jan. 20, 2011

BS Ranch Perspective:

It seems that there are some people that are getting jobs in this country, but there are many that are not!! The people in this article are here Illegally, as an Illegal Immigrant, people that have jumped the border!! Now I want to get something straight right now!! There are many of you out there that think that since I am writing about Illegal Immigrants who have come to this country for money, or work, doesn't make a difference what nationality they are to me, so I am not writing or looking at this to be an American against a Mexican or Hispanic decent person! I don't like anyone that comes to this country for any reason, Illegally!! If they want to come here then there needs to be an application for a Work Visa, or Scholarship Visa, but don't just jump the border and come here looking for work, or "Money", because there are a lot of people that come here to the United States whom have medical problems and they want to take advantage of our medical generosities, by getting a surgery that they have to wait months and in some cases up to a year to get because their National Medical Plan is over worked and there is not enough Surgeons to go around!! So many come here to get the medical procedure since they don't have to wait but a week or so and then they are in at the Local Hospital and getting the surgery done. Some Woman, and Well Husband, Wife teams come to simply have their child here in the States, then their Son/Daughter are United States Citizens, simply for being born here, not only that but these baby's hold a Duel Citizenship from the country their parents are from and The United States of America!!

This is one thing that needs to be changed in our Constitution! We need to change that Amendment that states that those that are born here are Natural Born Citizens, Irregardless of where their parents are from!! This Amendment was written back when a Slave was brought here from Africa, and Neighboring Countries, then this amendment stated that their children were Citizens automatically, no other country in the world has this Amendment, everyone in any other country has to apply for citizenship to that country, but not here in the States!! No No!! I see where Amendment as written was needed at one time, but those times have changed and the law needs to be reformed and changed to make Children born to the United States to Illegal Immigrants should also be Illegal Immigrants just like their Father/Mother!!

The other thing that I was thinking about reference this article, and that is that they have a count on how many Illegal Immigrants have work in this country! Yet there are not fines handed out to those that hire Illegal Immigrants, I believe that there are laws that prohibit people from hiring Illegal Immigrants for work in this country!! The other thing is that these people are here Illegally, and the United States Government has a count on these people then they should know where they are working, and where they are living or a general idea about where they are living and working!! Those Politicians that stand at their Podium's and make the Statements that we cannot find or arrest all of the up to 12 Million that are in the United States Illegally, because there are simply to many, to many to arrest and process.. to many to know where they work and where they might live??

Well this Article that states that there are over a million that are working here when the United States has maintained the same amount of Percentages of Unemployment! Seems to me if they know that there are over a million that have jobs and are working in the United States, then they obviously know where they are working and living!! Therefore they can all be picked up, Processed through a massive Arrest, Process (Finger Prints, Photo's etc etc...), and Relocate back to their home country where ever that may be!!

It is my thought that there needs to be a different way to get things done that will save this country money! One is to quit handing out freebies to those that are breaking our Immigration laws! a Law Breaker is a law Breaker!! I don't know about you, but I used to work in Law Enforcement as a Traffic Motorcycle Officer! I was employed to monitor Traffic, and attempt to make the commute as safe as possible by stopping those that were breaking the traffic laws, by speeding, or running a stop sign!! Most of the people that I stopped that appeared to be here Illegally from another Country, seemed to have trouble maintaining a small thing that we, The American Public, seem to be able to take care of and that is Maintaining Insurance for our Vehicles, and also Maintaining a Drivers License, from a State in the Union, of the United States of America! 9 out of 10 stops that I made, with which appeared to be here in this country Illegally, also didn't have Insurance, or a proper Drivers License! They all spoke very little English, and always handed me a State Issued Identification Card that they themselves more often then not admitted to me that they only used this Identification to cash checks, they were concerned that they would lose the Identification, but I was not in the confiscation business I was in the Traffic Law Enforcement Business! I always issued a Citation for the Suspended License or Lack of a Drivers License, but I always sent the driver walking as I towed their vehicle. In some cases their care was only worth a thousand dollars or so, but they would wait the thirty days. They would use a translator whom had a drivers license that would assist them in getting their cars out of Impound! It would cost them approximately $2500.00 to pay the Impound Fees to the tow yard, and another couple hundred to the city for the Release of the vehicle! They would spend all that money to get a car that was not even worth that much!!

But what would get me is the person that had the drivers license that would assist them! Obviously they were friends and close friends at that, Most people think that it is alright to be here Illegally, because they take the so called jobs that no U.S. Citizen wanted!! Well when they work there are people that are Citizens of this Country whom have been born and raised here that work along side them in some cases the foremen on their Agriculture Crew was Here Illegally, or here on a Work Visa!! I knew many Caucasian people that took those agriculture jobs and they seemed to like them, but the pay was lousy, but they did the job, unlike what always is reported either by someone in the media, or a reporter whom needs there to be a purpose for those that are here Illegally! They are not harmless either! There are many that cost our Insurance Companies a great deal of money, through your Uninsured Motorist Prevision on your Auto Insurance.. since again that statistic that I stated which was those that are here Illegally, 9 times out of 10, they would not have a Drivers License, or Insurance to their car that was not Registered, or driving with an Expired Registration!! Not to mention that in many cases the their cars are not properly maintained and they are lucky that they can get the car to stop, let alone loose the air that you can see in their bald tires!! I don't know about you but I think that there would be a lot more people taking those jobs that Illegal Immigrants are working now if they had the opportunity!!

First we need to start by Enforcing the Immigrant laws, and gather, process and deport all people that are here illegally.. Not just those that are here from Mexico, or South America! But those that are here from Canada, whom are down here in an attempt to bypass their own heath insurance for ours!! then they leave not paying their bills and suddenly we are the bad guy for wanting them to pay their way, stuck with their Open Heart Surgery, etc etc... sick if you ask me!! These politician's that we have now are awful! They are only worried about those votes that they might loose because they enforce the laws that was ultimately made by those that served before them in the very halls of Congress!! But there is no respect for those laws, or the people that previously served in their place!! they only are worried that there is someone here legally that would change their vote or for those that are Illegal Immigrants whom are registered voters in the U.S. even though they are here Illegally and they forged a new name and got and received a new Social Security Number and Voter Identification Card, registering as a Democrat makes you wonder if Obama didn't have the Illegal Immigrant Vote, if he would have one or not!! ??

BS Ranch


Exclusive: Over a million immigrants land U.S. jobs in 2008-10

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By Ed Stoddard

DALLAS (Reuters) - Over the past two years, as U.S. unemployment remained near double-digit levels and the economy shed jobs in the wake of the financial crisis, over a million foreign-born arrivals to America found work, many illegally.

Those are among the findings of a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data conducted exclusively for Reuters by researchers at the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston.

Often young and unskilled or semi-skilled, immigrants have taken jobs Americans could do in areas like construction, willing to work for less wages. Others land jobs that unemployed Americans turn up their noses at or lack the skills to do.

With a national unemployment rate of 9.4 percent, domestic job creation is at the top of President Barack Obama's agenda and such findings could add to calls to tighten up on illegal immigration. But much of it is Hispanic and the growing Latino vote is a key base for Obama's Democratic Party.

Many of the new arrivals, according to employers, brought with them skills required of the building trade and found work in sectors such as construction, where jobless rates are high.

"Employers have chosen to use new immigrants over native-born workers and have continued to displace large numbers of blue-collar workers and young adults without college degrees," said Andrew Sum, the director of the Center for Labor Market Studies.

"One of the advantages of hiring, particularly young, undocumented immigrants, is the fact that employers do not have to pay health benefits or basic payroll taxes," said Sum.

From 2008 to 2010, 1.1 million new migrants who have entered America since 2008 landed jobs, even as U.S. household employment declined by 6.26 million over that same period.

But in a sign of the times, the pace of job growth for new arrivals has also slowed, to an average of 550,000 a year from 2008 to 2010 from over 750,000 a year from 2000 to 2008.

Sum said it was fair to estimate that around 35 percent of these workers were undocumented or illegal.

Many immigrants acquired jobs in traditional low-wage work associated with foreign, undocumented and especially Mexican labor: hotels and food services, retail trade, sanitation, cleaning and construction.

There are a number of programs by which the United States lets foreign workers into the country to fill gaps in its domestic labor market but employer groups complain little is done in this area for legal, unskilled workers.

"There is basically no unskilled immigration that is legal. There are basically no provisions in the law for unskilled immigrants," said Bill Hammond, president of the Texas Association of Business.

Farm workers in particular argue that Americans would not do the tough field work that is rife with undocumented workers, titling one recent union campaign "Take Our Jobs". The slogan meant that if Americans wanted their jobs, then take them. But it is likely they don't.

Immigrant hiring also comes despite stepped-up workplace enforcement against companies that hire illegal immigrants and the rapid expansion of the online E-verify system used by employers to check immigration status.

Some of those who entered the country since 2008 were employed in sectors that generally require a high level of skills and education, such as finance and insurance.

But the 28,500 new arrivals since 2008 who found work in the finance and insurance sector only comprised 2.6 percent of the 1.1 million migrants. Over 90,000 of the newcomers since 2008 got work in health care and social services, a fast-growing sector where skills are in demand.

YOUNG, UNEDUCATED AND WILLING TO WORK

But the demographic profile of the immigrants who are still landing jobs is slanted to the young, uneducated, unskilled or semi-skilled. Accommodations and food services, for example, was a sector that employed over 144,000 new arrivals -- the biggest group of employed new immigrants. These would be jobs such as hotel maids and dishwashers.

And 42 percent of the 1.1 million were under 30.

The unemployment rate for all Americans without a high school diploma in this age group is about 27 percent to 29 percent -- a level that Sum says is "Depression scale." And in sectors such as construction the unemployment rate is almost 21 percent.

Asked about hiring, industry sources say there is little.

"What hiring? Our guys laid off another 16,000 people in December," said Brian Turmail, spokesman for the Associated General Contractors of America.

Yet the analysis by Sum and his colleagues shows that over 86,000 foreign-born workers who arrived in America since 2008 have been employed in the construction sector.

Sum said the whole situation was creating a deeper domestic labor glut at the bottom of the workforce ladder, depressing wages and sharpening already widening income disparities.

But Ezequiel Arvizu, the compliance and diversity representative with federal contractor Sundt Construction in Arizona, said his company had hired new arrivals over the past three years simply because they often have experience that native-born Americans lack.

"People often think construction is unskilled but the trades are very skilled and we need cement masons, carpenters, equipment operators," he told Reuters in a phone interview.

"We are looking for qualified candidates and it just so happens that some of the candidates who we select are legal immigrants. It means they have the skills we are looking for," he said.

(Editing by Peter Henderson and Philip Barbara)

Sunday, December 26, 2010

U.S. Congressmen Declares: Borders will be 'Irrelevant' (World Net Daily News) Thursday, Dec. 23, 2010

Thursday, December 23, 2010


WorldNetDaily Exclusive
U.S. congressman declares: Borders will be 'irrelevant'
Stunning statement from same lawmaker sworn in with hand on Quran, not Bible

Posted: December 22, 2010
8:59 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein


WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON - JANUARY 04:  U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) (R) takes his oath of office by swearing on a Koran during a ceremonial swearing in with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (L) and his wife Kim (C) at the U.S. Capitol January 4, 2007 in Washington, DC. Ellison is the first Muslim elected as a U.S. Congressman.  (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)

A so-called spiritual conference at which Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., called for the U.S. border to become an "irrelevancy" was led by a slew of extremists, including a Marxist who reportedly compared the tea-party movement to Hitler.

Conference speakers include radicals with deep ties to President Obama.

Yesterday, TheBlaze.com, founded by Fox News host Glenn Beck, posted a video from a conference led by the Network of Spiritual Progressives, or NSP, in which Ellison, the first Muslim member of Congress, declared to about 400 attendees that "God willing," the U.S. border will become irrelevant.

Stated Ellison: "No security policy position can be premised on military might. ...The way it works is we are a country guided by ideals of equity, generosity and engagement in our relations with other nations and those philosophical ideals create safe borders … and, God willing, one day the border will become an irrelevancy."

Ellison continued, "And you know, the fact is, it's time for us to answer a critical question, and that is how are we going to shape a progressive foreign policy agenda that provides a platform for the U.S. government in the 21st century."

WND has learned the conference was led by a slew of extremists who have had close relationships with Obama.

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One of the main speakers was avowed Marxist Michael Lerner, editor of the pro-Palestinian Tikkun Magazine. Lerner has been accused of using the magazine to justify Palestinian terror and has written articles in which he suggested the 9/11 attacks were a response to U.S. policies.

According to an account of the conference by Baltimore Sun columnist Marta Mossburg, who attended the two-day event, Lerner compared tea party activists to Hitler at least five times.

Mossburg wrote that Lerner used the conference to bolster support for Obama.

"We're here to support Obama. …We're here to help him to be the Obama Americans thought they elected," she quoted Lerner as saying.

Lerner said Obama attended Tikkun meetings in Chicago and used to read the magazine, according to conversations he had with Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Lerner identifies himself as an ordained rabbi. However, as Discover the Networks notes, Lerner received a controversial private rabbinic ordination by "Jewish Renewal" rabbis, whose ordinations are recognized only by those within the Jewish Renewal community and the out of mainstream Reconstructionist Judaism.

Orthodox Judaism, the Reform movement's Central Conference of American Rabbis, and the Conservative movement's Rabbinical Assembly all consider such ordinations invalid.

Lerner was an activist in the 1960s anti-war movement, the Students for a Democratic Society, from which the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization splintered.

Meanwhile, a co-chair of the Network of Spiritual Progressives conference at which Ellison made his remarks is Princeton professor Cornel West, an avowed Marxist and honorary member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Obama named West, whom he has called a personal friend, to the Black Advisory Council of his presidential campaign. West was a key point man between Obama's campaign and the black community.

West served as an adviser on Louis Farrakhan's Million Man March and is a self-described personal friend of the Nation of Islam leader. West authored two books on race with Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., who was at the center of the controversy last year in which Obama criticized Gates' treatment by police outside his home after a report of a burglary.

Another speaker at the Network of Spiritual Progressives event was Heather Booth, founder of the Midwest Academy, which teaches the community organizing tactics of radical Saul Alinsky.

WND was first to report that the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director alongside Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers, provided funding to Midwest Academy.

WND also broke the story that the executive director of Midwest Academy was part of the team that developed and delivered a group of volunteers for President Obama's 2008 campaign.

Also, in August 1998, Obama participated with Booth in a panel discussion following the opening performance in Chicago of the play "The Love Song of Saul Alinsky," a work described by the Chicago Sun-Times as "bringing to life one of America's greatest community organizers."

Ellison's entry into Congress drew attention when he posed with his hand on a Quran instead of a Bible after taking his oath of office in January 2007. His campaign was bolstered by the work of staff members of the controversial Council on American-Islamic Relations.

As WND reported last year, Ellison defended CAIR when members of Congress sought to investigate whether CAIR was placing interns with members of strategic security committees, as revealed in the book "Muslim Mafia" by Dave Gaubatz and Paul Sperry.

Ellison read a statement in Congress criticizing the call for an investigation.

"The idea that we should investigate Muslim interns as spies is a blow to the very principle of religious freedom that our founding fathers cherished so dearly," Ellison said.

"If anything, we should be encouraging all Americans to engage in the U.S. political process; to take part in, and to contribute to, the great democratic experiment that is America," he said.

U.S. prosecutors, however, believe CAIR, while claiming to be a civil-rights group, is actually a front group for Hamas and other terrorists. The Justice Department stated in September 2007 during its prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation in Dallas – the largest terror-financing case in history – that CAIR "has been identified by the government at trial as a participant in an ongoing and ultimately unlawful conspiracy to support a designated terrorist organization, a conspiracy from which CAIR never withdrew."

With research by Brenda J. Elliott

 

Saturday, April 04, 2009

Guatemala finds Mexico drug smuggler training camp

BS Ranch Perspective:

When is it that we are going to take some action to protect those that live in those States that are currently in the line of fire, from the Zetas! Those people that live in Texas, Arizona, and or California all have a vested interest in believing that their safety is being preserved either by the Border Patrol, United States Military, or some other Public Law Enforcement Entity, Preferably a Force that is Doing a Good, or Better job then has been currently done, a Force that has some Teeth, who can REALLY, TAKE A BITE, OUT of That Crime! 

One of these days, hopefully not soon, because it will be the start of a war the likes we have  not seen since World War One! BLOOD and CARNAGE was the name of that WAR, and it will RETURN for this NEXT WAR!! 

BS Ranch

PS: I pray that it doesn't happen, but something better be done! FAST!



Guatemala finds Mexico drug smuggler training camp  

By Sarah Grainger Sarah Grainger – Fri Mar 27, 7:22 pm ET

GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) – Guatemalan security forces have discovered a camp run by Mexico's most violent drug gang where traffickers trained dozens of gunmen, police said on Friday.

 

Security forces were tipped off about suspicious activity at a ranch in Quiche, in the central highlands, by residents who said men in ski masks were asking villagers to join their ranks, police chief Marlene Blanco said at a news conference.

 

Two commanders of the Zetas, the armed wing of Mexico's Gulf cartel, and 37 recruits fled the camp before the police and army arrived, leaving behind 500 grenades, six rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, Blanco said.

 

The spiraling violence of Mexico's drug war, where rival cartels have resorted to savage tactics in their struggle for territory, killed more than 6,200 people last year and has stoked increasing concern from both ordinary Mexicans and the country's neighbors.

 

"They wanted to recruit young men. They offered training in the use of certain weapons and said they had jobs," Blanco said.

 

Guatemalan authorities, helped by personnel from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, also found an illegal airstrip, an obstacle course and equipment for practicing shooting at moving targets.

 

"We are facing a war against drug trafficking and you can see what kind of weapons they have waiting for us," Blanco said.

 

Mexican President Felipe Calderon has deployed tens of thousands of soldiers in a bid to crack down on the violence.

 

Police believe a series of attacks on buses in Guatemala City in the past week were orchestrated by the Zetas to distract attention from the border where they had been shipping illegal arms and drugs into and out of the country.

 

Tuesday, January 06, 2009

JOE BACA WANTS A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ALREADY IN THE U.S.A. (BS RANCH REPORT JANUARY 6, 2009) BIG MISTAKE!!!! HUGE

The new Congress is likely to rekindle the immigration debate. Democrat Joe Baca of Rialto wants a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants already in the U.S. President-elect Obama favors reform.

BS Ranch Perspective:
Here is a question of the new demands of "Working" Joe Baca. One of the Senior Class at the Democratic Party, wants some kind of a path made for the many Illegal Immigrants that are living in the United States of America, ILLEGALLY!! The key word Senator Joe Baca, a man who is to lead by example and not break the law, I know Joe Baca, why don't you get Drunk, Drive Your Car, Under the Influence, & Get Arrested for the Offense of DUI (CVC 23152) but instead of being sentenced or even prosecuted, why don't we see if there is a way that we can MAKE A PATH TO MAKE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE A LEGAL OFFENCE!!
Maybe if we kill somebody, we should then try to find a way to make it a legal offence to kill somebody, but only after the fact!!
Joe Baca Unless you are going to open the boarder and say that everybody, is going to be free to cross the border from now on, not just those that have taken the chance to cross the border, on a one time basis!
The problem is that Baca is so ILL informed as to what is going on at the border, There is One HUGE WAR Taking place at the BORDER between the LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT (SHERIFF DEPARTMENT'S & POLICE AGENCIES FROM THE VARIOUS CITIES), THE BORDER PATROL, THE NATIONAL GUARD, AND THE MINUTE MEN who have been standing firm for the United States of America Against the DRUG CARTEL'S, the most ruthless and most powerful the ZETA!!!
The border open's up then we will not just be fighting a war in Iraq, that the liberals are complaining about, but Afghanistan, and if and that is a big If Joe Baca gets his way, We will be fighting with full force at the Southern Border in Texas, Arizona and California!!
So Before "Working" Joe Baca gets his way, I believe that we better remember that we have a forth war going on at the Mexican Border and if it we want it to get worse then I am all for the "Baca" Plan!!
BS Ranch

Sunday, June 10, 2007

Deep Divisions Derail Immigration Bill By Kennedy.

Deep divisions derail immigration billBy

CHARLES BABINGTON - Associated Press Writer

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Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. speaks during a news conference on immigration reform, Tuesday, June 5, 2007, on Capitol Hill in Washington. AP Photo/Susan Walsh

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WASHINGTON -- The Senate divisions that derailed a White House-backed immigration bill - for now, at least - mirror the U.S. society's deep differences over the issue, according to polling data, lawmakers and analysts. Those gaps will challenge any effort to get the measure back on track.While

While most Senate Democrats appeared to back the bill, several liberal members said it did too little to keep immigrant families together and protect jobs for U.S.-workers.Thes.

country unlawfully, against business groups hungry for willing workers in hotels, restaurants, construction sites and other comparatively low-wage, low-skilled workplaces.

A bipartisan group of senators tried for weeks to bridge the chasms, but fell glaringly short Thursday night. Needing 60 votes to end debate and schedule a final vote on the bill itself, they won only 45. Senate leaders set aside the legislation until further notice.

House leaders, meanwhile, said they will not tackle immigration legislation until a Senate bill is completed.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said hnotice.Houseass the measure eventually, but he devoted much of his post-vote comments Thursday night to accompleted.Senate Bush of doing too little to obtain Republican support. "This the president's bill," Reid told a hushed chamber. "Where are the president's people helping us with these votes?"

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., defended the administration. "The White House has worked like a dog," he told reporters. Indeed, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff lobbied senators inside the Capitol right up until Thursday's showdown vote.

The White House argued the setback was not fatal for Bush's top domestic prioritChertoffged Reid to allow the bill to continue to be debated and eventually recevote.Thete. Administration officials monitored the developments from Germany where the president was attending the annual summit of world leaders.

"He obviously is disappointed by the setback," White House counselor Dan Bartlett said of Bush. "But based on the latest information we have, there still is a good chance this bill could go forward."

Bartlett said the president did not call any lawmakers from Germany to lobby for the measure.

Whether Bush can revive the legislation may depend largely on whether he can soften some of the differences between key components of his party's base, inclumeasure.Whetherate community and social conservatives.

They clashed on matters such as the immigration bill's proposal for a new temporary worker program. Businesses that crave immigrant workers were furiouconservatives.They May set the limit for incoming temporary workers at 200,000 a year instead of the original plan for 400,000. They were even more dismayed when the Senate narrowly voted to end the program altogether after five years.

But slapping tighter limits on immigration is a priority for many conservatives. When it came to the temporary worker program, their interests overlapped with years.Butpro-labor groups concerned about a flood of low-wage workers.

Top U.S. Chamber of Commerce lobbyist R. Bruce Josten told The Associated Press this week that the immigration issue is "divisive in the Republican base, it'workers.Topin the Democratic base, it's divisive in theJosteness community. It splits organized labor, it splits the immigration community."

Republican senators who backed the immigration bill felt particularly exposed to fierce attacks from conservative activists in their home states, including talk show hosts and local GOP officials. Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said in a floor speech Thursday that he disliked many aspects of the bill but felt it would be irresponsible to kill it.

"I am getting calls, but I would say to my constituents: Do you have no faith in me after 35 years that I am just going to buy a pig in a poke here, or be for something that is bad?" Lott said.

In a recent poll by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, 55 percent of the respondents said penalizing employers who hire illegals is the best way to reduce illsaid.Inmigration. One in four said more border agents is the best answer, and 7 percent favored more border fences.

When the word "amnesty" was not invoked, 62 percent of Republicans said they favored letting illegal immigrants now in the country obtain citizenship if they fences.Whenpass background checks and pay fines. But only 47 percent of Republicans said they favored giving amnesty to illegal immigrants if they met those same conditions.

Democrats, independents and moderate and liberal Republicans were most concerned about jobs, but conservative Republicans were about equally concerned witconditions.Democrats.

Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., left, and Janet Murguia from the National Council of La Raza, take part in a news conference on immigration reform, Tuesday, June 5, 2007, on Capitol Hill in Washington. AP Photo/SuMurguiash

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BS Ranch Perspective

I just cannot tell you how happy that I am that this bill failed to pass!! No matter how hard Barbara was trying to tell me that it wasn't amnesty, the more that I felt that she felt that she was talking to a bunch of Sheep that would just follow Her Anywhere, Why, if we are sheep and Barbara was the Sheep Herder she, she would be leading us over a cliff, and the cliff was known as Amnesty!! All the while that we were falling to our death she was telling us that it wasn't amnesty, just follow along,

Kennedy lives in a state that he doesn't have a problem with Illegal Immigration. The other day I was watching a news channel and they were interviewing a person that was in favor of closing off the border, but they were not so concerned with the Canada Border, to our North! I would say that the Canada Border is just as important as the Florida closing their Southern Ocean border, and the Mexico California Border's There should not be any Amnesty for anyone. PERIOD!!

If a Person wants to be a Citizen of the United States then they need to go about it through the Legal way that My Mother and Two Brothers did. I was born here and that was how I obtained my right to be here. However, They had to do a whole lot of study, and learn about the Constitution. In fact I bet more then what any student in School had to learn to graduate. Weird, My Mother and brothers knew a great deal about the Constitution and I knew very little and yet I graduated and had to learn a great deal about it for the career choice that I had in Law Enforcement.

I believe that the Border Patrol can clear most of the Illegal Immigrants out of the Country, and the ones that they cannot caught as easy can be cleared out as time goes by, believe traffic accidents and through traffic stops arrests and the like. They will be deported and if they want to try to apply for citizenship and or try to get their papers in order legally then they can do that. If they have family or somebody that they know that is willing to take some responsibility for them via papers and they can have them move to the Americas with them and start their citizenship that way. Just and Idea??

BS Ranch

Saturday, May 26, 2007

GOP Walks a Fine Line on Immigration Bill (L.A. Times 052607)

GOP walks a fine line on immigration bill

By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer
2:56 PM PDT, May 26, 2007

WASHINGTON -- The roiling congressional debate over a plan to legalize undocumented immigrants has rekindled a bitter fight within the Republican Party over the best strategy for restoring the GOP to political dominance — with each side accusing the other of following a course that would destroy the party for decades to come.

The clash has grown increasingly intense in recent days, drawing in the most senior figures in Republican politics. President Bush aimed unusually pointed language at critics, many within his own party, who oppose a more permanent status for illegal immigrants.

Two conservative senators were booed by Republican crowds in their home states last week for endorsing the legalization plan. And conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh attacked the Bush-backed plan as the "Destroy the Republican Party Act."

On Friday, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) tied his presidential campaign more tightly to the view that a welcoming immigration policy would boost the GOP in important swing states, as he scheduled an address on the plan June 4 in immigrant-rich Miami and attacked his leading rivals for opposing the measure.

At issue are not just different approaches to immigration, but two competing visions for how to rebuild and maintain a base of loyal Republican voters.

Many Republican strategists and Bush allies blame the party's election losses last year in part on Latino voters who fled the GOP amid a flurry of anti-illegal immigration ads by some of the party's candidates. They say Republicans cannot hope to win a national majority without substantial support from the fast-growing Latino voting bloc.

"I believe that not to play this card right would be the destruction of our party," said Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.), the Cuban-born chairman of the Republican National Committee, who helped write Senate legislation creating a path to citizenship for most of the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants. "Hispanics make up about 13% of our country and by 2020 will be more like 20%. It is a demographic trend that one cannot overlook."

Directing his criticism squarely at Limbaugh, Martinez added: "He has emotion on his side, but I think I have logic on mine."

Conservatives and many opinion leaders argue, however, that backing the immigration bill is a dangerous course, because it angers the GOP's mostly white base, as well as swing voters who are open to the party's message of national security and law enforcement.

Some also argue that new immigrants are more likely to vote Democratic, so it makes little sense to increase their numbers. On his radio show, Limbaugh, with an estimated 13 million listeners each week, described the Senate legislation as Democrats "getting a brand new electorate, reshaping it and being able to win election after election after election."

A public spat between the conservative movement's top-rated radio personality and the chief spokesman for the Republican Party would have been unheard of three years ago, when Limbaugh and others like him worked arm-in-arm with the White House and Republican National Committee to reelect Bush and build a network designed to ensure long-term dominance.

Even when running for Texas governor in the mid-1990s, Bush and his political aides worked to forge stronger ties to Latinos, the country's fastest-growing minority. They continued that effort during Bush's two presidential races, waging a sophisticated, bilingual campaign that many credit with helping the GOP make inroads into a constituency that had been moving to the Democrats.

Now, some party strategists fear the effort will end, whether or not Congress approves an immigration law overhaul. They point to high emotions within the party stirred up by the legislation, and note that all of the GOP's major presidential contenders — except McCain — are saying the measure might be too soft on illegal immigrants.

"We are at a crossroads in our country and, yes, in our political party," said Rudy Fernandez, a former deputy to White House strategist Karl Rove and one of the GOP's chief architects of Latino outreach.

The citizenship plan is part of a bipartisan deal that is under debate in the Senate. The deal would heighten border security and stiffen penalties on employers who hire illegally, a priority for conservatives. But, in provisions that anger many conservatives, the bill would offer probationary legal status to illegal workers who were in the U.S. before Jan. 1 of this year, and create a path to citizenship for most of them that could take a dozen years to complete.

Another contentious provision would permit hundreds of thousands of foreigners to enter the country temporarily to work.

Shortly after senators unveiled their compromise bill, former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney criticized the measure. Romney called it an "incredible gift" to illegal immigrants and described it as a form of "amnesty."

McCain, a key negotiator on the compromise, at first seemed to be keeping his distance when the deal was announced last week. Now, he has decided to tackle the matter head-on, frustrated at what his aides see as pandering by his rivals and buoyed by new polls showing a majority of Americans support a welcoming approach to immigrants.

He directly challenged one leading critic, conservative talk show host Sean Hannity, who warned Thursday of growing anger among conservatives and a "groundswell of opposition" in the party base.

"So I am supposed to gauge my behavior on whether I am booed or not? Please, Sean," McCain responded.

By embracing immigration in Miami, McCain will be staking a claim to a key issue in an early primary state that Giuliani and Romney have both made central to their strategy for winning the nomination. Romney and Giuliani have both hired aides to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, but the president's younger brother, whose wife is Mexican American, has expressed dismay in the past about the anti-immigration views held by some in his party.

McCain aides say the Arizona senator, like Bush, understands the importance of building ties with Latinos. "We're getting close to the point where we will no longer be a national party if we try to define it as a white male cul-de-sac, gated community party," said John Weaver, McCain's chief strategist.

Some Republican strategists believe the GOP field is being pulled to the right in part by Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), who is not a top-tier candidate but is running as the most prominent anti-illegal immigration member of Congress.

In an interview, Tancredo accused Bush's allies of risking the party's future by ignoring the GOP base. Deflecting criticism that the immigration issue hurt GOP candidates last year, he argued that the GOP alienated Latinos in 2006 for the same reason it lost support of many other voters: the war, scandals and other administration failings.

"We lost a lot of white males too," he said.

The grass-roots anger at the party elite was on display last week in Georgia and South Carolina, when Sens. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) and Lindsey Graham ( R-S.C.) were heckled by otherwise friendly Republican audiences for their decision to support the immigration measure. Graham was booed when he mentioned that Bush understood the politics of the issue and performed well among Latinos.

Nationally, exit polls show the GOP share of the Latino vote dropped sharply from an unusually high 40% in 2004 — the result of intensive outreach by Bush's reelection campaign — to just 30% in 2006. Democrats now see a major opportunity to expand their share of the Latino vote, an important bloc in states such as Florida, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Colorado that are expected to play pivotal roles in the 2008 presidential election.

Latino opinion surveys compiled by the pro-Democratic group NDN, and not disputed by top Republican strategists, show that immigration has rocketed from near the bottom to near the top of the list of concerns to Latino voters. More than half, according to the NDN data, say the issue increases their interest in voting.

"Republicans have become a more menacing party to Hispanics over the past year," said Simon Rosenberg, president of the NDN, which has spent millions of dollars targeting Latino voters and documenting the pre-2006 GOP gains.

The tone of the 2006 campaign, along with recent comments by Romney and others, has at least one lifelong Republican questioning his loyalty.

Lionel Sosa worked as a political strategist for President Reagan and both President Bushes. But if the Republican nominee adopts a harsh tone on immigration, Sosa said he would not vote for the GOP.

"Blood runs thicker than politics," said Sosa, of San Antonio, who is the host of a fundraiser for one of the Democratic contenders, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who is Latino. "I'm not saying I would vote for a Democrat. But I'm saying I would not vote for a Republican who opposed immigration reform."

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BS Ranch Perspective:
There comes a time in every GOP member's time when he wonders what is going on in his/her party when they are changing the belief's of the party, just by this particular subject. Immigration is such that the Borders should be strengthened, and the Illegal Immigrants that are are Currently "Living on The Tet" of the U.S. Government Illegally, costing the American Public Millions in Unpaid Taxes, referring to those that are & have been working "Under the Table" for their money, not paying any taxes on this income. Most of them are Live in Maids, Governesses, "Mannie's", and the elusive Gardner's and day workers at any Home Depot, or Lowe's Parking lot in any city in America.
Many of the Undocumented Illegal Immigrants that work in the U.S.A. work with made up Social Security Numbers within the Restaurants and small businesses that they work for. When the Immigration comes by it forces their small business to a stand still. Many of the small businesses are forced to quit for that day and call their customers to reschedule their appointed people for that day, if they cut their lawns etc etc..
Then what about the people that have the same SSN that the Illegal Immigrant uses to get his or her job. They request the duplicate Card from the Social Security Offices, who is watching the store here. There shouldn't be a Duplicate Card Issued in that different name, but it is. The circle is vicious and terrible the more that you follow it.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS VERY LOST WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!! They are trying to get a vote from the person that cannot Vote. Yet the people that Can Vote that supports the Illegal Immigrants are ones that Can Vote and that is why I presume that they get lost, and go against their feelings on this subject.
IT IS THE OPINION OF THIS AUTHOR THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THEN FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEING ALLOWED IN THIS COUNTRY!!
The Illegal Immigrants that are in this country the estimated 12 Million that are mixed in the population of the United States of America Needs to be slowly but surly rounded up, and evicted, to their own country and make them or force them to start to gain to get their own Citizenship Done Right, instead of coming in and playing dodge Border Patrol, and all others that Patrol Officers that might evict him from the country.
They say it cannot be done. I say that it will not be done over night, but slowly but surely it can be done. and you will see our requirements for Law Enforcement Officers per capital will drop, and Law Enforcement will be returned to the previous levels of 1950, and Crime will be something that will be solved more. Especially with the equipment, and things that we have to solve crimes that we didn't have in the 50's.
BS Ranch

Thursday, April 12, 2007

Disagreemants Remain Over Illgal Immigration (Fontana Herald News)

Disagreements remain over illegal immigration

By FONTANA HERALD NEWS



The subject of illegal immigration has been a thorny issue for many years. Passions run high on both sides; one extreme demands amnesty for all illegal immigrants, while the other extreme insists that each one of them should be deported. Some studies conclude that illegal immigrants help the United States economy; other studies say that people who are here illegally are a huge drain on our nation's resources.

The issue came to a head last year, when hundreds of thousands of people marched in major cities such as Los Angeles in favor of immigrants' rights. There were also some small rallies by people (mostly students) in Fontana.

Another march was held earlier this month in L.A., but this time only about 5,000 pro-amnesty participants (and a small number of counter-demonstrators) were involved. In the Inland Empire, a rally was held on March 16 at San Bernardino City Hall, attracting about 400 pro-amnesty individuals and close to 100 counter-demonstrators.

It seems as though the issue has been placed on the back burner, at least on the national level, with many more citizens rightfully concerned about the war in Iraq than about illegal immigration.

But it would be wise for Congress to renew its efforts to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill. President Bush has pushed for a reasonable compromise that aims to secure the nation's borders against terrorist threats, while at the same time recognizing the need for a guest worker program and a path for illegal immigrants to legalize their status if they pay fines, have a job, learn English, and stay out of trouble.

While federal leaders continue their debate, people in Fontana and the Inland Empire can still feel free to air their disagreements over this issue -- as long as they remain peaceful and do not foment hatred, particularly against people from Latin American countries who represent most of the immigrants (both legal and illegal) to the United States. Unfortunately, some of the counter-demonstrations at the recent San Bernardino rally expressed their anti-illegal immigration views in bigoted terms. It is important for citizens to state their case while not contributing to an atmosphere of hatefulness.




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BS Ranch Perspective:

The crazyness over the Immigration is rampet, but the people that are for the Illegal Immigration don't seem to understand. I would say that 99% of all people against Illegal Immigration are against the people that enter the United States illegally for what ever reason. All that I know is that they have entered the U.S. illegally.

If they had gone thought the proper channels and obtained a Green card like my Parents did a great many years ago when the entered the U.S. on a Extended Stay Visa.. They stayed and worked on getting a Green Card, which they were able to do.

They worked and stayed here and worked toward gaining that citizenship, and worked super hard and obtained the right to vote, the right to sit on a Jury.

The people that are coming here and bashing through the border, staying beyond their Visa, whether it be a Student Visa, or Work Visa. If they blow by the expiration dates on those or enter the country by running the border, they are "BREAKING THE LAW"!!

The Word "Illegal" Immigrant! If they were just an Immigrant than we would not have this discussion, but it is "Illegal Immigrant" therefore the Conversation is wide open!!

Illegal Immigants Need to go home and re-enter the country the right way! I don't care if it takes 50 years, it is the right way to get in. after all there is a right way and a wrong way. Entering the country with nothing that is issued by the government, Legal like, with your birth name on it. No matter how you look at it you are here Illegally and need to either be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, or go home and return legally.

BS Ranch

Wednesday, March 07, 2007

High Re-Arrest Rate for Illegal Immigrants (Main News) New findings come to U.S. is struggling to deport criminals.

High re-arrest rate for illegal immigrants
New findings come as U.S. is struggling to deport criminals.
By Marisa Taylor - Mcclatchy Washington Bureau
Last Updated 1:24 am PST Tuesday, January 9, 2007
Story appeared in MAIN NEWS section, Page A6

Illegal immigrants are being released from prison only to be arrested on new charges despite government efforts to deport them and keep them out of the country.

The findings are part of an audit by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine that suggest authorities are still struggling to deport illegal immigrants who commit crimes, even though most state and local authorities are notifying immigration authorities of the imminent release of prisoners.

Fine's office analyzed the cases of 100 immigrants who had served time in prison and found 73 of them were re-arrested for committing a crime after being released.

On average, each immigrant was re-arrested six times, ranging from traffic violations to assault.

Fine's office couldn't determine how many illegal immigrants had been re-arrested overall because immigration authorities don't keep track. If the sample was any indication, "the rate at which released criminal aliens are re-arrested is extremely high," the report said.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials questioned whether the audit's small sample should reflect negatively on their agency's efforts to deport criminal immigrants. The audit did not determine whether ICE failed to deport the immigrants after being notified by prison officials.

But Heather Mac Donald, a fellow with the conservative Manhattan Institute, said ICE continues to have problems with deporting criminal immigrants because the agency doesn't always have enough detention space to hold immigrants once they're released from prisons.

"What this speaks to is the fact that we're not up to speed on immigration enforcement in general," she said.

Last year, Homeland Security's inspector general said immigration authorities expected that most of the 300,000 illegal and legal immigrants eligible to be deported would be released. Federal officials said they would need 34,000 additional beds at a cost of $1.1 billion to detain and remove all of them.

David Martin, a University of Virginia law professor and former top immigration official, said he was surprised that the re-arrest numbers in the most recent report were "so high."

U.S. immigration officials appeared to be making progress working with state and local officials who now notify them before a criminal immigrant is released, he said. That way, the immigrant is quickly deported.

Congress requested the audit because of questions about compliance with a federal program meant to reimburse cities and states for the costs of incarcerating illegal immigrants.

California, New York, Texas, and Florida receive the most funding. States and cities often are not completely reimbursed for what they spend on prisoners because the program doesn't get enough funding, the audit said.



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BS Ranch Perspective:

I don't think that this plan is working to well, it seems that they are just spinning their wheels, by giving the criminals to the Border Patrol to Deport back to their home Country only to have them sneak back into the country and be arrested again on the same charges as they were arrested before. It looks as if they are unemployable and are making their way, any way that they know how, and that way is in the criminal element, but they are so dumb that they get caught every-time that they go out and do a crime, the only other thing that could be going on is that they are to come bake into the country only to be used as decoy's for crimes that are being committed in the same area that they are caught, and that is why they are caught, over their other accomplice. they either are home sick and figure to go home for free of charge, only to sneak back in a matter of a week before getting caught doing another crime. weird huh?

BS Ranch

Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Bush: Convicted Border Patrol Agents Could Be Pardoned (012207 KFOXTV.com)

Bush: Convicted Border Agents Could Be Pardoned

Posted: January 22nd, 2007 10:18 AM PDT

Story by kfoxtv.com

President Bush on Thursday indicated that a presidential pardon for two Texas Border Patrol Agents remains a possibility.

Bush, speaking this morning with KFOX-TV, discussed the case of Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos.

Bush said, "There's a process for pardons. It's got to work its way through a system here in the government. I just want people to take a sober look at the case."

Bush said a White House review will take place. "People need to take a tough look at the facts, the evidence a jury looked at, as well as (the) judge. And I will do the same thing," Bush said.

Compean and Ramos were both convicted last year of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler and trying to cover it up. Both men started serving their federal prison sentences yesterday. Compean was ordered to serve 12 years behind bars. Ramos was ordered to serve 11 years.

Supporters of the two border agents, including several Republican members of Congress, requested the President pardon both men. California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher said Thursday the two men were "heroes" who were "putting their lives on the line to protect our borders".

Rohrabacher also criticized the federal prosecutor involved in the case for granting immunity to the drug smuggler involved, in order to secure the man's testimony.

Rohrabacher and a handful of other Republican Congressmen have criticized the President for not already issuing the pardon.

"I don't think the American people have seen this element of the President. It will do him no good to let them know he's willing to be this mean spirited," Rep. Rohrabacher said.

Bush said the cases of Compean and Ramos have "got a lot of emotions".

"Border Patrol and law enforcement have no stronger supporter than me," he said.

-Alison Burns, Catherine Reynolds and Scott MacFarlane, KFOX-TV

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BS Ranch Perspective:

I just don't get what the whole hold up is? I have read the Reports that were submitted via the Internet, and they are supposed to be the right reports un-doctored by anyone! However, the President allows the Border Patrol of the U.S. to do their job Second Guessing themselves because they will not pardon the two that have done their jobs correctly and they both have sentences that are both over 10 years, this whole thing makes me sick thinking about it.

It is almost like the President, along with the City and State Governments all are saying to the public that they want the Drugs to be Freely smuggled across the U.S. Mexico Border anytime and anywhere that the Smuggler wants to get the drugs across!

They are placing the Border Patrol Agents in Prison that are doing their jobs, Defending the people of these here United States of America, and yet the President, and the Governor of the State in which this happened are both just sitting on their hands. While the person that was shot in the rear end or Butt, by the two Border Patrol Agents which whom are in prison now, for the offense of arresting this smuggler.

The same smuggler was caught by another Partnered set of Border Patrol Agents for Smuggling Drugs again, and this time he might as well had been set free, since that is what will more then likely happen to him anyway! Or he will be dropped in the city of his choosing in Mexico, and he will be setting up his business all over again however this time he will fix up his car better to  be able to handle air conditioning and forced air conditioning. Especially in the summer.

But still we will wait for the Border Patrol Agents to be Acquitted of their crimes, and allow them to get back to their families so that they can try to explain to their children how they were doing their job, and they were not stood beside, by their administration and the next time that this might happen they will lie on their reports, and will it will be an Iron Clad Case" All because of the Huge Fish story that will be in or on the report that they will turn in, because of the report savvy that they have been taught by their superior today, by sitting in Jail all this time.

Now it would not be that bad, but when you are supposed to be in Protective Custody, and then suddenly they remove you from Protective custody for some unknown reason,  and sent into General Population in a Prison that has been known to Kill the Police Officer, when they are in Jail, this jail houses mostly all Undocumented Individuals that are placed in the Jail to await their transport back to Mexico, where they will turn and try to come back to the United States all over again.

George W. Bush Needs to Release these Border Patrol Agents and Relieve them of all their wrong doing and allow them to come back to work, if they trust the system that much to do so even after the system as failed them now!!

Please Pardon the Two Border Patrol Agents Please G.W. Bush, They didn't mean harm by their Arrest and shooting Skills, however they did have one lucky shot. right in the guys, Ass!! LOL..

BS Ranch!!